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Posted on Mar 10, 2013

Walkout in UCL over Gender Segregation at iERA event

Walkout in UCL over Gender Segregation at iERA event

video courtesy of Dana Sondergaard – read her account here

A debate at the University College in London between atheist academic Lawrence Krauss and Islamist extremist Hamza Andreas Tzortzis ended abruptly after the hosting organisation, the Islamic Education and Research Academy (iERA), enforced gender segregation amongst the audience. Krauss, stating that he had been promised no such segregation would take place, walked out (see video, above).

The iERA is an extreme Islaimist organization, whose staff  includes Islamist hate preachers such as Abdurraheem Green, Hamza Tzortzis (the opposing speaker at the debate) and Yusuf Chambers.

Tzortzis has previously been associated with Hizb-ut-Tahrir, another extremist organisation that campaigns for a global Islamist caliphate and is viciously hateful of Jews. Tzortzis chaired the launch event of the iERA. He is on record condemning democratic principles and advocating for a Sharia state:

“We as Muslims reject the idea of freedom of speech, and even the idea of freedom. We see under the Khilafa (caliphate), when people used to engage in a positive way, this idea of freedom was redundant, it was unnecessary, because the society understood under the education system of the Khilafa state, and under the political framework of Islam, that people must engage with each other in a positive and productive way to produce results, as the Qur’an says, to get to know one another.”

Tzortzis wants to criminalise homosexuality, and equates it with paedophilia and cannibalism.

Yusuf Chambers is a founding member of the iERA. In a recorded conversation conducted with Dr. Zakir Naik (who has been banned from entering Britain), Chambers specifically asks what the punishment for homosexuality should be (the answer is “Death”), and then asks Naik to refute suggestions that homosexuality has any natural or genetic origins . In the same interview, Chambers agrees that adulterous women should be stoned to death.

Abdurraheem Green, another iERA official, recommends that death is a “suitable” punishment for adultery and homosexuality:

“Such crimes thus need suitable and effective punishments that act as a sever [sic] warning to others. A public crime deserves a public punishment. Adultery is punishable by death, and a slow and painful death by stoning. All of this also goes some way to help understand way acts of homosexuality are similarly treated so harshly.”

According to Green, beating women, in order to “bring them to goodness,” is permissible:

The husband is allowed, to prevent her from evil, to apply some type of physical force … It is not allowed to break the skin, does not allow to break a bone or even leave a mark on the skin. A beating that is that severe is forbidden and this is a type of assault, and is haram, and a crime in Islam to treat your wife like that. But a type of physical reprimand in order to bring her to goodness is allowed.

Green does not attempt to hide his distaste for Jews. In one video, Green has said, “Why don’t you take the Yahudi [Jew] over there, far away, so his stench doesn’t disturb us, okay?”

Green also claims that Turkish leader Ataturk was “an extremely, thoroughly unpleasant, nasty kafir [unbeliever of Islam]. He was a Jew, he was a Jew. And not only was he a Jew, he belonged to a sect of the Jews that even the Jews think are far astray.”

The iERA’s Abdullah Hakim Quick has been condemned by New Zealand’s broadcasting authority for his anti-gay tirades, which state that homosexuals must be killed, that they are “sick” and “not natural”, and that “Muslims are going to have to take a stand [against homosexuals] and it’s not enough to call names.” He continues to hold this position: “They said ‘what is the Islamic position [on homosexuality]?’ And I told them. Put my name in the paper. The punishment is death. And I’m not going to change this religion.”

This is just the tip of the iceberg: other iERA speakers include Bilal Philips, described by the US an “unindicted co-conspirator” in the 1993 al-Qaeda attack on the World Trade Center; Zakir Naik, banned from the UK for saying that “every Muslim should be a terrorist;” and Shady Sulieman, who has said that for those who commit adultery, “their punishment is stoning to death.”

It is hardly surprising that this extreme group enforced medieval segregation rules. Stand for Peace commends Dr Lawrence Krauss for having the integrity to show what he thought of such fundamentalist behaviour.

7 Comments

  1. Its a shame that a couple of uncivilised disrespectful men had to disrupt an otherwise amazing well organised event.

    Clearly this was a pre-planned tactic to divert attention away from the actual outcome of the debate.

    Men forcing themselves upon women yesterday and promoting incest
    between a brother and sister. Whats next Krauss? Genderless toilets? Its
    very clear that Islam is based upon Moral guidance and more beneficial
    to Human Society and Atheism is degrading our society as can clearly be
    seen by the moral decline of the west over the last 100 years. Clearly
    Islam is more sensible.

    • So Salahuddin, men sitting next to women is “forcing themselves” on them? Kind of like blacks sitting next to whites, don’t you think? And by the way have you heard of unisex toilets? They don’t kill anyone, unlike Islamic stoning and flogging. And by the way, congratulations on your conspiracy minded “detective work” discovering the nefarious motives of those protesting segragation. Incidentally if the west has been “declining” for 100 years, what are you Isalmists doing in the UK?

    • Salahuddin, you poor ignorant uninformed man. You keep using the term “clearly” when it is no such thing, it is a bit like using the phrase “to be honest” and then following that with a complete falsehood or imagined sleight. The vindictive retrograde behaviour you condone and demonstrate “clearly” demonstrates just how much you have got wrong about how to live a good and productive life. The creeping invective of your corrupted view of Islam, with puerile and false analogies, leads me to pity you for a wasted life.

  2. @Salahuddin Yet Religion is founded on Incest, in a religious view point you would not be here were it not for incest, that makes Islam a lot more sensible, Laa Ghoula habibi. Beating wives and stoning adulterers a lot more sensible, walking around a black stone like the pre-arab pagans much more sensible, Free will according to your Rabb is more sensible because it is outside our realm of understanding, Yes Habibi, Krauss is so morally corrupt because he agrees that in certain cases incest is ok, yet I have never read a book that breaks more moral codes than the Qu’ran, Bible and torah combined, have sex with slaves, kill woman and children, let males suckle from teats, have sex with 9 year olds, yes indeed Allahu Akbar, all I have to say is Laa Illaaha ….. There is No God …. jazaakalaah

  3. You attribute statements too these individuals , do you have any references for these statements too ensure it wasn’t taken out context? # evidence

    • Dear Hasan,

      Yes. Click the links. Hard to take statements such as ‘take the stinking jew’ and ‘punishment is death for homosexuals’ out of context. They contain all the context themselves.

      SfP

  4. Whatever are matters coming to in Britain? This sort of gender apartheid is appalling and whoever is responsible for regulating organizations at UCL should crack down on the organizers immediately.

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